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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 8:55:58 GMT
Might have a chance to pick a pair up locally. They have the gold metal tweeters. Robin Marshall was involved from what I've read.
What is their sound signature like?
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Post by karma67 on Oct 19, 2018 15:49:42 GMT
very good,i had a pair,lovely mid range,let me know if you move them on please.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 16:34:04 GMT
If they're better than the 852MD they should be superb.
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Post by macca on Oct 19, 2018 16:58:51 GMT
They are a Robin Marshall design. Not that it means as much as you might think, best designer in the world can't do much within a tight budget. If it has to sell at say a 500 quid price point then you want cost of materials to be down at around fifty quid. Okay so you have some economies of scale but even so. You can't really cheat with loudspeakers, they need to be well-engineered to sound good. And that costs. Stereophile quite liked them though www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/188mon/index.html |
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Post by karma67 on Oct 19, 2018 17:18:08 GMT
If they're better than the 852MD they should be superb. they are geoff,ive had both. im not sure about the gold tweeters though,they may have been changed to later ones??
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Post by karma67 on Oct 19, 2018 17:27:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 18:00:17 GMT
If they're better than the 852MD they should be superb. they are geoff,ive had both. im not sure about the gold tweeters though,they may have been changed to later ones??
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 19, 2018 18:39:47 GMT
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 19, 2018 18:42:12 GMT
Gold domes did sound different. A bit less lively. I preferred the non gold but it wasn’t a deal breaker. Sorry if I keep making mad typos. Damaged ulnar nerve often plays up and affects sequencing. I often don’t realise because it feels ok, but the results show otherwise!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 18:48:46 GMT
Cand say ivv notideced meny trypos.  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 19, 2018 19:09:03 GMT
I usually get to them quickly, but sometimes I don’t check and just assume I’ve typed what I intended, it’s usually gibberish, not helped by the iPad autocorrect.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 19:44:47 GMT
Might buy them next week. Will post some pics if I get them. Hope they can handle number 11 on the dial?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 16:57:41 GMT
Spent a nice Sunday afternoon listening to the R952MD at the chaps place. They have a lovely balanced sound and full rich deep bass. Certainly no need for any stupid subwoofer in medium sized rooms. Very easy to drive. The Storm 2 drove the MA's fine. But they sound better on his Naim NAP 250. The combo was pretty good. I can happily live with a 250!
The chap had a look at inside the Storm 2 and couldn't see anything wrong, looked alight. But we still did hear some light buzz coming through the speakers. Plus the transformer also buzzes. The noise through the speakers, is identical to the sound coming from the transformer.
This amp could possibly be fussy with mains quality, but we don't truly know. Build quality isn't very good. The case is very light and thin. No doubt the transformer buzz is vibrating the walls of the case.
We also wired the Storm 2 to his SBL's. Sadly this resulted in a thin sound with harsh treble. I can see why people say SBL's needs a 250 minimum.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 21, 2018 17:57:38 GMT
Sounds like ten noisy transformer is the cause then. As you say, it’s impossible to know if it will be quiet on some mains, Are you planning on keeping it or sending it back?
Glad you liked the 250. They can be compelling in the right.system.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 18:02:57 GMT
Might keep the Storm for a little while. It's an OK amp. But not ideal for speakers that are hard to drive.
The 250 is very good. I can see myself living with one as an endgame amp. It's bloody heavy and well made! Bass goes down deep!
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 21, 2018 18:45:14 GMT
Might keep the Storm for a little while. It's an OK amp. But not ideal for speakers that are hard to drive. The 250 is very good. I can see myself living with one as an endgame amp. It's bloody heavy and well made! Bass goes down deep! S. Have you heard an Exposure Dual IV at any stage? For me it outdoes the 250 in all the areas it’s good at. Not greatly different, just Bigger, badder and bolder IMO. Worth grabbing a listen sometime to see if it does it for you. That said, I have still loved every 250 I’ve owned, |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 18:48:37 GMT
Never heard the Dual IV. Only read about it on the forums.
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Post by macca on Oct 21, 2018 20:42:42 GMT
Spent a nice Sunday afternoon listening to the R952MD at the chaps place. They have a lovely balanced sound and full rich deep bass. Certainly no need for any stupid subwoofer in medium sized rooms. Very easy to drive. The Storm 2 drove the MA's fine. But they sound better on his Naim NAP 250. The combo was pretty good. I can happily live with a 250! The chap had a look at inside the Storm 2 and couldn't see anything wrong, looked alight. But we still did hear some light buzz coming through the speakers. Plus the transformer also buzzes. The noise through the speakers, is identical to the sound coming from the transformer. This amp could possibly be fussy with mains quality, but we don't truly know. Build quality isn't very good. The case is very light and thin. No doubt the transformer buzz is vibrating the walls of the case. We also wired the Storm 2 to his SBL's. Sadly this resulted in a thin sound with harsh treble. I can see why people say SBL's needs a 250 minimum. S. You not buy them then Shane? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 21:03:05 GMT
In a couple weeks.
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Post by macca on Oct 21, 2018 22:25:04 GMT
Cool. Sounds like they are pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 22:27:49 GMT
Cool. Sounds like they are pretty good. Not surprised. Monitor Audio were turning out some nice designs back then. |
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Post by antonio on Oct 22, 2018 5:45:28 GMT
Might keep the Storm for a little while. It's an OK amp. But not ideal for speakers that are hard to drive. The 250 is very good. I can see myself living with one as an endgame amp. It's bloody heavy and well made! Bass goes down deep! S. 250 as an endgame amp.  At least go to the 135's, well worth the extra. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 13:52:55 GMT
Might keep the Storm for a little while. It's an OK amp. But not ideal for speakers that are hard to drive. The 250 is very good. I can see myself living with one as an endgame amp. It's bloody heavy and well made! Bass goes down deep! S. 250 as an endgame amp. At least go to the 135's, well worth the extra. How do they sound in comparison to the 250? S. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 14:19:50 GMT
250 as an endgame amp. At least go to the 135's, well worth the extra. How do they sound in comparison to the 250? S. More of the same. Definitely more! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 14:27:24 GMT
The 250 sounded good through those particular MA speakers. Is that because they have a warm sound?
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 22, 2018 14:48:26 GMT
The 250 sounded good through those particular MA speakers. Is that because they have a warm sound? S. I’d say “no”. Kans and SBLs aren’t warm, nor are Petites, but the 250 is fab with them too. I’d say it was a “bold” sounding amp, rather than a bright sounding one. It’s not massively different tonally to Exposure. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 15:03:22 GMT
I reckon a Quad 909 plus a passive pre-amp would work very nicely through the R952's. Probably a bit overkill though powerwise.
I've heard the R852 driven with a 306/Tisbury combo and it sounded really good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 15:15:23 GMT
I reckon a Quad 909 plus a passive pre-amp would work very nicely through the R952's. Probably a bit overkill though powerwise. I've heard the R852 driven with a 306/Tisbury combo and it sounded really good. Are you fussed about the later 909's being made in China? S. |
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Post by antonio on Oct 22, 2018 15:17:17 GMT
How do they sound in comparison to the 250? S. More of the same. Definitely more! The music flows more freely, and doesn't have a hard edge which I thought the 250's had when demo'ed against 135's. I also heard 250's active into SBL's and still thought the 135's were better. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2018 15:22:15 GMT
More of the same. Definitely more! The music flows more freely, and doesn't have a hard edge which I thought the 250's had when demo'ed against 135's. I also heard 250's active into SBL's and still thought the 135's were better. Had a look at the completed listings on eBay. 135's are selling for high money! Even un-serviced examples seem a bit overpriced. The 135's you heard, did they have olive case? S. |
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At least go to the 135's, well worth the extra.