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Post by antonio on Oct 5, 2022 17:40:56 GMT
im tempted to be honest,it would be a good project for me (as well as all the other stuff im doing!) i have recently met a woman cabinet maker local to me who rents workshop bench space out so its very tempting. Sorry but I can't help myself Jamie, it would have been so much better if the last bit I have highlighted had not been there  |
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Post by Arke on Oct 5, 2022 17:46:10 GMT
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Post by gninnam on Oct 5, 2022 17:47:45 GMT
I would love to hear the small standmounts in my room as it is small (about 2.5 x 2.2) with the front port, I think the Etka's would be just too much even with all the room treatments. Pleased for you Oli that you finally got to where you have been trying for many years  |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 5, 2022 17:57:58 GMT
I would love to hear the small standmounts in my room as it is small (about 2.5 x 2.2) with the front port, I think the Etka's would be just too much even with all the room treatments. Pleased for you Oli that you finally got to where you have been trying for many years Thanks. It's been a struggle. If only Jason had bought a BB3 earlier! Lol Those standmounts were very good. Excellent imaging. That GoGo Penguin track just blew me away through the Arkes. I reckon you'd like them a lot. |
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Post by Arke on Oct 5, 2022 18:01:20 GMT
I would love to hear the small standmounts in my room as it is small (about 2.5 x 2.2) with the front port, I think the Etka's would be just too much even with all the room treatments. Pleased for you Oli that you finally got to where you have been trying for many years Where are you based? The demos I have are rear ported, but we could try them in your room. We could try lightly stuffing the port too. If they work well, I can make some with front ports. The amount of bass from them is pretty surprising. I'd thoroughly recommend bass traps too - I just rolled up some foam to create some 30cm diameter, 100cm long cylinders. We used this close to the wall at my friend's (he is buying some) and they work fine. Slight bass lift, but no boom. His room is about 4m x 4.5m though.   ALSO gninnam : I am making a smaller version for my friend. Same cabinet volume and sound quality, but no rear xover compartment. The damping remains consistent, but depth is reduced from 375mm to 300mm. Better for small spaces. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 5, 2022 18:02:44 GMT
Well.. just back from a trip to Oliver’s and obviously had the chance to listen to the Ektas. The major problem for me is that once you’ve heard them you can’t unhear them. Will anything else suffice? It was a thrill to be drawn into music that I’d never even heard before. Outstanding. I'm gonna say no Steve. I have heard an absolute shed load of speakers, tried most types here too, apart from electrostatics, and I haven't heard anything that touches these in a domestic setting. I haven't really done Hifi shows etc, so who knows what is available for the tens of thousands...but I do know that I certainly can't afford anything that would. This is one of the best HiFi deals Ive ever done. Best value for money? I think the treatment of the room is going to be unbeatable. Treat your rooms people!! |
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Post by electronumpty on Oct 5, 2022 20:10:43 GMT
This all sounds very positive, great news all round 👍
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Post by gninnam on Oct 5, 2022 20:34:34 GMT
I would love to hear the small standmounts in my room as it is small (about 2.5 x 2.2) with the front port, I think the Etka's would be just too much even with all the room treatments. Pleased for you Oli that you finally got to where you have been trying for many years Where are you based? The demos I have are rear ported, but we could try them in your room. We could try lightly stuffing the port too. If they work well, I can make some with front ports. The amount of bass from them is pretty surprising. I'd thoroughly recommend bass traps too - I just rolled up some foam to create some 30cm diameter, 100cm long cylinders. We used this close to the wall at my friend's (he is buying some) and they work fine. Slight bass lift, but no boom. His room is about 4m x 4.5m though. ALSO gninnam : I am making a smaller version for my friend. Same cabinet volume and sound quality, but no rear xover compartment. The damping remains consistent, but depth is reduced from 375mm to 300mm. Better for small spaces. I am near Leeds so a bit of a trek. Slightly smaller version might work better in the room and I know treatment will help a lot (the current speakers work well in the room, just a bit of bass boom at the extremis, not stuffed the ports but I know that would help too). Used to use Quad 11l's which were very good in the room but the current speakers add extra bass slam and I like my bass  |
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Post by Arke on Oct 5, 2022 20:43:24 GMT
Where are you based? The demos I have are rear ported, but we could try them in your room. We could try lightly stuffing the port too. If they work well, I can make some with front ports. The amount of bass from them is pretty surprising. I'd thoroughly recommend bass traps too - I just rolled up some foam to create some 30cm diameter, 100cm long cylinders. We used this close to the wall at my friend's (he is buying some) and they work fine. Slight bass lift, but no boom. His room is about 4m x 4.5m though. ALSO gninnam : I am making a smaller version for my friend. Same cabinet volume and sound quality, but no rear xover compartment. The damping remains consistent, but depth is reduced from 375mm to 300mm. Better for small spaces. I am near Leeds so a bit of a trek. Slightly smaller version might work better in the room and I know treatment will help a lot (the current speakers work well in the room, just a bit of bass boom at the extremis, not stuffed the ports but I know that would help too). Used to use Quad 11l's which were very good in the room but the current speakers add extra bass slam and I like my bass Leeds isn't too bad from here. You're welcome to hear here first too. What are your current speakers? |
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Post by gninnam on Oct 5, 2022 21:19:44 GMT
I am near Leeds so a bit of a trek. Slightly smaller version might work better in the room and I know treatment will help a lot (the current speakers work well in the room, just a bit of bass boom at the extremis, not stuffed the ports but I know that would help too). Used to use Quad 11l's which were very good in the room but the current speakers add extra bass slam and I like my bass Leeds isn't too bad from here. You're welcome to hear here first too. What are your current speakers? OK - my speakers are Reiver Acoustic Jenna'- bespoke hand built floor standers using 5 Mark Audio drivers in each cabinet plus tweeter speakers made by Toppsy from the Audio Talk forum |
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Post by Arke on Oct 5, 2022 21:48:04 GMT
Leeds isn't too bad from here. You're welcome to hear here first too. What are your current speakers? OK - my speakers are Reiver Acoustic Jenna'- bespoke hand built floor standers using 5 Mark Audio drivers in each cabinet plus tweeter speakers made by Toppsy from the Audio Talk forum any pictures? They sound like a great speaker. What are they not doing right in your room? Edit: think I've found a picture - they look epic. They must be quite an experience in a small room! |
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Post by ijrussell on Oct 5, 2022 22:17:05 GMT
I'm really looking forward to comparing the Arke1s to my Q Acoustics Concept 300 speakers.
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 5, 2022 22:21:44 GMT
I'm really looking forward to comparing the Arke1s to my Q Acoustics Concept 300 speakers. Take your credit card 😬 |
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Post by Arke on Oct 6, 2022 5:51:37 GMT
I'm really looking forward to comparing the Arke1s to my Q Acoustics Concept 300 speakers. Would you like to bring them over? I'm flexible on timings. I'm in Bradwell in the Peak District |
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Post by stevew on Oct 6, 2022 8:33:14 GMT
Well, as a good friend of mine says - you can’t take it with you. So.. I’ve got this. The stars are aligned.  Yep.. £5 prize and a lucky dip tomorrow. This time next year Rodney… I knew it. On a roll  |
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Post by firebottle on Oct 6, 2022 9:49:21 GMT
Coincidentally I had an email from NS&I saying I had a prize of £100 today, whoopee.
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Post by gninnam on Oct 6, 2022 16:15:44 GMT
OK - my speakers are Reiver Acoustic Jenna'- bespoke hand built floor standers using 5 Mark Audio drivers in each cabinet plus tweeter speakers made by Toppsy from the Audio Talk forum any pictures? They sound like a great speaker. What are they not doing right in your room? Edit: think I've found a picture - they look epic. They must be quite an experience in a small room! They are nicely put together and they actually work very well in the room apart from the bass boom on certain tracks and volume. Would like to try a good pair of stand mounts and see how they compare and if they work better in the room (the Jenners get down to about 42Hz) then I may be tempted to part with some of the kids heirloom |
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Post by Arke on Oct 6, 2022 16:24:24 GMT
I would love to hear the small standmounts in my room as it is small (about 2.5 x 2.2) with the front port, I think the Etka's would be just too much even with all the room treatments. Pleased for you Oli that you finally got to where you have been trying for many years The Arkes will happily do down into the low 40Hz region too, but won't move as much air. They are very resolving and transparent, so you will get a very clean and open mid and treble. The bass has reasonable weight (given their size) and is pretty dynamic and controlled. What are the exact dimensions of your room L, W and H? Have you got any dimensions almost the same? If the Height is similar to the Length or Width that is probably your boom frequency. With dimensions we could calculate the boom frequency and you may be able to tune it out with some targeted bass traps. |
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Post by gninnam on Oct 6, 2022 18:38:20 GMT
I would love to hear the small standmounts in my room as it is small (about 2.5 x 2.2) with the front port, I think the Etka's would be just too much even with all the room treatments. Pleased for you Oli that you finally got to where you have been trying for many years The Arkes will happily do down into the low 40Hz region too, but won't move as much air. They are very resolving and transparent, so you will get a very clean and open mid and treble. The bass has reasonable weight (given their size) and is pretty dynamic and controlled. What are the exact dimensions of your room L, W and H? Have you got any dimensions almost the same? If the Height is similar to the Length or Width that is probably your boom frequency. With dimensions we could calculate the boom frequency and you may be able to tune it out with some targeted bass traps. A sketch of the room with dimensions. Concrete floor with carpet. Settee is leatherette.  Oli, wonder if you want to take all my waffle into its own thread? |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2022 18:57:27 GMT
The Arkes will happily do down into the low 40Hz region too, but won't move as much air. They are very resolving and transparent, so you will get a very clean and open mid and treble. The bass has reasonable weight (given their size) and is pretty dynamic and controlled. What are the exact dimensions of your room L, W and H? Have you got any dimensions almost the same? If the Height is similar to the Length or Width that is probably your boom frequency. With dimensions we could calculate the boom frequency and you may be able to tune it out with some targeted bass traps. A sketch of the room with dimensions. Concrete floor with carpet. Settee is leatherette. Oli, wonder if you want to take all my waffle into its own thread? I can do, I'll sort it out at some point... Busy listening lol |
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Post by stevew on Oct 6, 2022 19:14:20 GMT
The Arkes will happily do down into the low 40Hz region too, but won't move as much air. They are very resolving and transparent, so you will get a very clean and open mid and treble. The bass has reasonable weight (given their size) and is pretty dynamic and controlled. What are the exact dimensions of your room L, W and H? Have you got any dimensions almost the same? If the Height is similar to the Length or Width that is probably your boom frequency. With dimensions we could calculate the boom frequency and you may be able to tune it out with some targeted bass traps. A sketch of the room with dimensions. Concrete floor with carpet. Settee is leatherette. Oli, wonder if you want to take all my waffle into its own thread? Yeah.. like I don’t think you can use the term pouffe anymore. It’s a cushion that identifies as a low table. Thank you. |
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Post by Bigman80 on Oct 6, 2022 19:24:36 GMT
A sketch of the room with dimensions. Concrete floor with carpet. Settee is leatherette. Oli, wonder if you want to take all my waffle into its own thread? Yeah.. like I don’t think you can use the term pouffe anymore. It’s a cushion that identifies as a low table. Thank you. 🤣🤣 |
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Post by antonio on Oct 6, 2022 19:28:28 GMT
stevew "Yeah.. like I don’t think you can use the term pouffe anymore" Why?
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Post by gninnam on Oct 6, 2022 19:39:42 GMT
stevew "Yeah.. like I don’t think you can use the term pouffe anymore" Why? Exactly - that is what it is - end of. |
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Post by Arke on Oct 6, 2022 19:53:44 GMT
The Arkes will happily do down into the low 40Hz region too, but won't move as much air. They are very resolving and transparent, so you will get a very clean and open mid and treble. The bass has reasonable weight (given their size) and is pretty dynamic and controlled. What are the exact dimensions of your room L, W and H? Have you got any dimensions almost the same? If the Height is similar to the Length or Width that is probably your boom frequency. With dimensions we could calculate the boom frequency and you may be able to tune it out with some targeted bass traps. A sketch of the room with dimensions. Concrete floor with carpet. Settee is leatherette. Oli, wonder if you want to take all my waffle into its own thread? the main modes are likely to be in the 64-75Hz region. The Arkes will certainly give you a decent bass in there. Not sure it'll be as much as you're used to... Perhaps drop me a message if you're keen. We can arrange a demo sometime. |
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Post by stevew on Oct 6, 2022 20:12:11 GMT
stevew "Yeah.. like I don’t think you can use the term pouffe anymore" Why? Really? Is it me? It’s me isn’t it? |
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Post by firebottle on Oct 7, 2022 6:49:06 GMT
I don't think so Steve, it's a generational thing. They were always know as a pouffe when I was younger.
Any connotation with sexual orientation is now passe I recon in these 'enlightened' times.
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Post by stevew on Oct 7, 2022 6:58:06 GMT
Humour… ahh I remember that.
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Post by stevew on Oct 7, 2022 8:18:29 GMT
Anyway .. enough nonsense and back to the plot.
Jason.. question for you.
Will you be giving the option of ccc wiring in future builds.
I can only imagine it’s quite an expensive option, but would be interesting to see if it improves on occ (or not!)
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Post by firebottle on Oct 7, 2022 8:38:43 GMT
I'm pretty certain CCC will be an improvement, it's what I have asked for in my build. Currently I 'only' have OCC speaker leads, despite constant pressure from a certain golden eared source  |
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