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Post by savvypaul on May 2, 2019 18:57:06 GMT
The heresies have always intrigued me. Not least because I want a pair of their larger brethren, I almost bought the pair TonyL got on PFM, and another pair on PFM before that. The one thing that stopped me was image height. It’s an absolute deal breaker for me. It’s sank every conventional speaker I’ve owned. Not a single speaker that fires straight forward has fully satisfied me. Worst of all for image height were Royd Minstrels. I also disliked lots of other things about them but that waist-height imagery was a complete turn off. Do the Heresies somehow cast a decent height image, or are they “Dachshund” speakers? I haven't felt short changed in that respect 😉 You could always stick a book or two under the risers for more angle. The Count of Monte Cristo would probably be too much, but Catch 22 should work...
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 19:00:54 GMT
9 Degree backward tilt
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 19:18:20 GMT
Nice Rug, Where did you get that from? Azarbaijan It really ties the room together, man.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 19:28:23 GMT
I like Grey. Im going Light Grey walls & Carpet with Mid grey Sofa. White Furniture with the odd Orange thing like a Chair & Lampshades.. Will look Sh#t hot..
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Post by macca on May 2, 2019 19:35:06 GMT
I'm classy seventies here. Exposed brick with white walls in between. 1970s coffee table with brown and orange ceramic tiles. used to have the 'wrap around' brown velour love seat and three matching chairs anorl but it was shagged so I had to get rid in the end. Shame because it did all look the business. The velour - forget about it.
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Post by savvypaul on May 2, 2019 19:38:41 GMT
I'm classy seventies here. Exposed brick with white walls in between. 1970s coffee table with brown and orange ceramic tiles. used to have the 'wrap around' brown velour love seat and three matching chairs anorl but it was shagged so I had to get rid in the end. Shame because it did all look the business. The velour - forget about it. 'I had a love seat...but it was shagged'. That is a great line 😍
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Post by macca on May 2, 2019 20:01:28 GMT
Hey talk to the BBC mate. Script rejected. In fairness it was a joint effort so I was only half to blame.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 2, 2019 20:05:31 GMT
Hey talk to the BBC mate. Script rejected. In fairness it was a joint effort so I was only half to blame. Bastards rejected my drama based on drug culture. That was a joint effort an’ all. It was a bitter pill to swallow.
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Post by savvypaul on May 2, 2019 20:14:05 GMT
Hey talk to the BBC mate. Script rejected. In fairness it was a joint effort so I was only half to blame. Bastards rejected my drama based on drug culture. That was a joint effort an’ all. It was a bitter pill to swallow. Working title: How My Krakk-Ko-Kan Addiction Cost Me Everything!
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Post by Bigman80 on May 2, 2019 20:18:29 GMT
Bastards rejected my drama based on drug culture. That was a joint effort an’ all. It was a bitter pill to swallow. Working title: How My Krakk-Ko-Kan Addiction Cost Me Everything! Well I did start a forum for “addicts”
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2019 21:51:34 GMT
The heresies have always intrigued me. Not least because I want a pair of their larger brethren, I almost bought the pair TonyL got on PFM, and another pair on PFM before that. The one thing that stopped me was image height. It’s an absolute deal breaker for me. It’s sank every conventional speaker I’ve owned. Not a single speaker that fires straight forward has fully satisfied me. Worst of all for image height were Royd Minstrels. I also disliked lots of other things about them but that waist-height imagery was a complete turn off. Do the Heresies somehow cast a decent height image, or are they “Dachshund” speakers? I remember TonyL calling Heresies 'big Linn Kans', well something like that anyway. Because both have a similar way of pushing the music upfront and are fast etc. Plus, they need to be up close to walls etc. S.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 3, 2019 4:47:47 GMT
The heresies have always intrigued me. Not least because I want a pair of their larger brethren, I almost bought the pair TonyL got on PFM, and another pair on PFM before that. The one thing that stopped me was image height. It’s an absolute deal breaker for me. It’s sank every conventional speaker I’ve owned. Not a single speaker that fires straight forward has fully satisfied me. Worst of all for image height were Royd Minstrels. I also disliked lots of other things about them but that waist-height imagery was a complete turn off. Do the Heresies somehow cast a decent height image, or are they “Dachshund” speakers? I remember TonyL calling Heresies 'big Linn Kans', well something like that anyway. Because both have a similar way of pushing the music upfront and are fast etc. Plus, they need to be up close to walls etc. S. I had missed that one. Interesting comparison. Kans are very addictive if you can attune to their strong accent. These days I just can’t get there. Heresies seem to need the floor as a bass boost and I hate 3ft imagery so I’ve kinda given up on them.
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Post by savvypaul on May 3, 2019 8:44:43 GMT
The heresies have always intrigued me. Not least because I want a pair of their larger brethren, I almost bought the pair TonyL got on PFM, and another pair on PFM before that. The one thing that stopped me was image height. It’s an absolute deal breaker for me. It’s sank every conventional speaker I’ve owned. Not a single speaker that fires straight forward has fully satisfied me. Worst of all for image height were Royd Minstrels. I also disliked lots of other things about them but that waist-height imagery was a complete turn off. Do the Heresies somehow cast a decent height image, or are they “Dachshund” speakers? I remember TonyL calling Heresies 'big Linn Kans', well something like that anyway. Because both have a similar way of pushing the music upfront and are fast etc. Plus, they need to be up close to walls etc. S. Is some ways they are like Kans. In other ways, nothing like Kans. Both have curtailed bass but the Heresys have more a much more satisfying 'full fat' upper bass. The Heresys breathe and have an ease and swing that you only get from a large woofer. The Heresys time brilliantly, but they sound much, much bigger than the Kans (which, of course, they are). I've never been able to trip up the Heresys when it comes to timing. The Heresys also sound big and alive at low volumes - important if, like me, you live in a row of pauper's cottages and don't want to fall out with the neighbours The Kans need power and current - a 250 or 135s (a bolt down 160 also works). The Heresys will play loud with a 1 watt amp, but they are very, very revealing of sources and amps. There is a lower treble peak, but I'm told it's less pronounced on the 3s compared to previous versions. Valves - I reckon a 300b / single ended triode would be a sweet match, el84 amps are also reputed to do well and cost a lot less. S/S - my NVA passive pre and bi-amped monoblocks have the purity needed. They are my favoured combo with the Heresys for vinyl. Wonderful clarity without losing the inherent warmth of vinyl. I'm finding that I like a bit of flavouring to help some digital files and the baby Marantz receiver is just the ticket for that...but it is nowhere near the wide open window of the NVAs. To that end I'm going to try a RME dac that has an EQ facility (and a remote volume control - which I do sometimes miss with the NVA). Regarding positioning - floor reinforcement seems a good deal more important than proximity to a rear wall. My room doesn't facilitate corner placement, so I can't comment on that.
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Post by antonio on May 3, 2019 12:35:54 GMT
Have you moved your valve amp on Savvy? I thought you purchased it specially to go with the Heresys.
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Post by savvypaul on May 3, 2019 12:42:42 GMT
Have you moved your valve amp on Savvy? I thought you purchased it specially to go with the Heresys. Still have it, but I probably will move it on - it's decent enough in it's own right, but it's well behind the NVAs for clarity and not as sweet (or cute) as the Marantz.
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Post by savvypaul on May 8, 2019 14:25:37 GMT
Trying out the RME ADI-2 dac. Remote volume control and eq facility are the main attractions - don't have to get up to change volume on the NVA pre, volume increments are suitable for very fine adjustments, and you can change filters / adjust eq for different recordings / speakers / headphones.
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Post by macca on May 8, 2019 14:36:51 GMT
If I was buying a DAC that is the one I fancy. Measures well, loads of features and price is reasonable.
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Post by antonio on May 8, 2019 15:34:15 GMT
Another one here who would like to hear this dac. Only read good reports, but I believe Savvy will give a honest review. Oh don't mention it on HFS, you know the £5 dac is all you really need. Sorry to be cheeky but how much are they new now.
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Post by savvypaul on May 8, 2019 15:59:50 GMT
Another one here who would like to hear this dac. Only read good reports, but I believe Savvy will give a honest review. Oh don't mention it on HFS, you know the £5 dac is all you really need. Sorry to be cheeky but how much are they new now. I paid £795 for the RME. The £5 dac (plus £45 LPSU) is very decent, a no-brainer for beer money. When we had a dac bake-off at mine, I preferred it to a couple of £200-£300 units. My interest in the RME is for the feature set. I reckon the remote volume and eq facility will be well worth paying for. The latter being especially handing for when I change speakers and for taking the edge off poor recordings. This could be a dac for objectivists and subjectivists, alike. If you want the studio sound then it does, as Martin says, measure very well. On the other hand, if you want to add a little salt or pepper, then there are several options for doing that. I'll give it a proper listen and a play with all the features, and let you know what I think...
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Post by macca on May 8, 2019 16:55:45 GMT
For me it is the ability to display a spectrum analyser on the screen that would clinch it for me. Not for any practical purpose but just because I like spectrum analysers.
Look forward to your assessment Paul.
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Post by antonio on May 8, 2019 17:13:45 GMT
Are you using it directly into your power amps to use the remote volume, or are you still able to put it through your pre and still adjust the volume.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 17:45:14 GMT
For me it is the ability to display a spectrum analyser on the screen that would clinch it for me. Not for any practical purpose but just because I like spectrum analysers. Look forward to your assessment Paul. 🤣🤣
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Post by savvypaul on May 8, 2019 18:39:48 GMT
Are you using it directly into your power amps to use the remote volume, or are you still able to put it through your pre and still adjust the volume. set the pots on the Nva pre to about halfway, then fine adjust volume from the Rme remote.
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Post by savvypaul on May 8, 2019 18:41:47 GMT
For me it is the ability to display a spectrum analyser on the screen that would clinch it for me. Not for any practical purpose but just because I like spectrum analysers. Look forward to your assessment Paul. I turn the display off - just comes on for a few seconds if and when you change volume / settings.
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Post by savvypaul on May 10, 2019 10:56:13 GMT
Had the RME for a week, now.
I'm starting to think of this as the DAC equivalent of the Technics SL1210. Aside from the same pro /domestic market crossover vibe, the RME is unflappable, even handed and transparent, a high level of clarity without false excitement. It seems to be very well thought through and immaculately implemented...and the approach taken is refreshingly free from bullshit!
There's nothing 'tricksy' to the sound, unless you want there to be. There is a built in EQ facility that holds 20 presets, so you can have different set ups for different speakers and headphones, or even for different quality of recordings / sources. The menus and myriad possibilities take a bit of getting used to, but are very useful. The digital volume control seems to be flawless. It comes with a thick and detailed instruction manual.
I can't really declare an £800 dac to be cheap, but this does seem like a lot of value compared to a lot of other (more expensive) dacs. I find it to be more enjoyable across more recordings than the Chord 2Qute that I had for a couple of years, and I find it has just as good SQ, if not even better, than the Metrum Amethyst that I also currently have.
All of the above is through speakers. I'm going to do some headphone listening over the weekend and compare it to my NVA AP10H with 2nd PSU.
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Post by macca on May 10, 2019 11:37:40 GMT
If you factor in that it is also a DSP unit the price doesn't look too bad.
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Post by Bigman80 on May 11, 2019 1:45:25 GMT
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Post by savvypaul on May 14, 2019 16:32:51 GMT
Been playing with the RME.
Having a go at remapping the remote control keys.
The menus (and most of the manual) are absolutely fucking impenetrable, to me. Macca, you would love it!
I've joined the RME forum which I suspect will either show me what is right in front of my nose or make me want to slash my wrists...
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Post by macca on May 14, 2019 17:10:03 GMT
Lol I'm not so sure, I'm not a fan of RTFM.
Why do think I stick with CD players? Put a disc in, press play. Cd player stops working? Just hook up another one and carry on listening to music. That suits me fine.
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Post by savvypaul on May 14, 2019 17:17:09 GMT
Update - has anyone got a really, really sharp knife?
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