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Post by hifinutt on Dec 27, 2023 15:26:08 GMT
Anyone familiar with gato have a look at these pics . apparently these amps have some sort of fans which is called active cooling . I cant see them , can you ? 6moons.com/audioreviews/gato/3.htmlThe lateral heatsinks are milled semi cylinders with maximal surface cooling to explain the high weight of the compact enclosure.
some comments on forums Fans most likely are hidden inside cylindrical spaces on both sides I'd say and work independently for each channel here is a quote from the manual g control The AMP-150 features an advanced active cooling system to provide the most effi cient cooling with the lowest noise possible. The system measures music level and temperature level and processes data individually for each channel. The cooling system activates when music is playing and will adjust the cooling level accordingly to the temperature level. When music stops the cooling system will lower into minimum cooling mode and then go into standby when the amplifi er has been cooled to the idle temperature. www.gato-audio.com/eu/amp-150.html |
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Post by misterc on Dec 27, 2023 15:41:21 GMT
Phil, I find them a bit brutal, clean and punchy, bass isn't bad think Neochrome but less forgiving. Chassis is abit marmite imho
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 27, 2023 16:33:04 GMT
indeed Mr c , but have they got fans ? i cant see them anywhere
i hasten to add i am not getting any . just curious what the heck this active cooling is all about
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Post by misterc on Dec 27, 2023 16:51:32 GMT
When they were first released and garnered a few Paul "thats 13 pages a year advertising in each of my mags lad and you'll get a badge for that" Miller the sales were quite brisk, in the last few years quite a few have been appearing on the usual for sale sites. As always TRY before you buy Phil, although I would suggest a two week trial and see how you feel after 1/2 that period as the wow factor subsides imho.
Not as quite as bad a Chord electronics when NOT using Chord cables Sarum T looms
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Post by pete on Dec 27, 2023 17:11:17 GMT
Tension being heightened in fan or no fan drama😉
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Post by Arke on Dec 27, 2023 17:25:25 GMT
Tension being heightened in fan or no fan drama😉 It's the 'fan or no fan drama' or Christmas TV! 😉. |
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Post by pete on Dec 27, 2023 17:45:25 GMT
Tension being heightened in fan or no fan drama😉 It's the 'fan or no fan drama' or Christmas TV! 😉. 🤣😂 |
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Post by misterc on Dec 27, 2023 17:45:58 GMT
Personally I'm a fan of very few pieces pieces of audio simply because the vast majority are geared towards the presentational aspects of sound reporduction, devoiding the listening of real involvemental (Is that such a word as that? well fook I'll use it anyway  ), but more of a good port, some lip smacking cheddar, quality track days. Oh and a trick scope of two.
The Gato amps really divide opinion, if you have say Harbeth, Grahams, Dali or Kef speakers then the match imho would be a more suitable one
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 27, 2023 17:53:02 GMT
When they were first released and garnered a few Paul "thats 13 pages a year advertising in each of my mags lad and you'll get a badge for that" Miller the sales were quite brisk, in the last few years quite a few have been appearing on the usual for sale sites. As always TRY before you buy Phil, although I would suggest a two week trial and see how you feel after 1/2 that period as the wow factor subsides imho.
Not as quite as bad a Chord electronics when NOT using Chord cables Sarum T looms
have no fear ... i have zero intention of buying one !! just curious re fans |
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Post by misterc on Dec 27, 2023 18:42:59 GMT
Fear not Phil, I know you are curious sort, some pieces do peek and instrest for sure!
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Post by pete on Dec 27, 2023 23:21:13 GMT
…….. but what about the fans, are they present or not?? I’m on the edge of my seat here!!🤣
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 28, 2023 7:53:21 GMT
What fascinates me about this thread (it really does) is Phil's insatiable and unquenchable obsession with everything about hifi.
I mean, does anyone else actually give af about the fans in a particular brand of amp?
... Mind you, why do they need fans in a class D amp anyway? 😕 The dang things are so efficient.
OH NO.
He's got me at it now. 🤦♂️
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Post by peterthebutcher on Dec 28, 2023 8:57:06 GMT
just seen them on an Elite Audio newsletter, they do nowt for me
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Post by hifinutt on Dec 28, 2023 10:15:50 GMT
What fascinates me about this thread (it really does) is Phil's insatiable and unquenchable obsession with everything about hifi. I mean, does anyone else actually give af about the fans in a particular brand of amp? ... Mind you, why do they need fans in a class D amp anyway? 😕 The dang things are so efficient. OH NO. He's got me at it now. 🤦♂️ yes jerry not for nothing is my user name hifinutt !!! i am pretty sure the 150 is class AB though |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 28, 2023 10:30:04 GMT
Class AB. Yes. You're right. That's what the linked review says deep in the impenetrable jungle of its extreme verbosity! I just thought "Gato.... obviously Class D. They all are, that's what Gato do." It just shows I'm not a hifi nut(t) in the truest sense of the term.  |
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Post by stevew on Dec 28, 2023 10:47:41 GMT
Class AB. Yes. You're right. That's what the linked review says deep in the impenetrable jungle of its extreme verbosity! I just thought "Gato.... obviously Class D. They all are, that's what Gato do." It just shows I'm not a hifi nut(t) in the truest sense of the term. Not a fan then ? |
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Post by jandl100 on Dec 28, 2023 11:06:17 GMT
I'm not a fan of fans.
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Post by stevew on Dec 28, 2023 14:26:18 GMT
Look mum, no fans  |
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Post by misterc on Dec 28, 2023 17:15:09 GMT
What fascinates me about this thread (it really does) is Phil's insatiable and unquenchable obsession with everything about hifi. I mean, does anyone else actually give af about the fans in a particular brand of amp? ... Mind you, why do they need fans in a class D amp anyway? 😕 The dang things are so efficient. OH NO. He's got me at it now. 🤦♂️ After I wrote the reply to Phil last night Jerry I sudden thought of you and your box swapping antics you must run Phil a close second lol |
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Post by pete on Dec 28, 2023 18:44:41 GMT
But….. we are still not sure if it has cooling fans!!!😵💫😵💫😵💫
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Post by macca on Dec 29, 2023 10:19:46 GMT
Three ways to cool an amplifier:
Heatsinks
Fans
Liquid
Nothing in their literature says that they use liquid cooling (I think there were some amps that did this way back when, possibly from Trio-Kenwood?)
Therefore their active cooling must be via fans. Since fans are unpopular it's no surprise they don't mention them and instead obfuscate.
None of the reviews mention them either but again no surprise as all the available reviews are from shill sites like 6 Moons and The Absolute Sound.
For an amp at that price power regulation is good but not great. Looks to me like you're paying for a fancy case, a bullshit back story and high margins right along the distribution chain. I'll pass.
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 3, 2024 15:25:01 GMT
well the mystery is solved . it does have fans . reply on Gato owners thread
Just had confirmation from Gato that the AMP-150 DOES have cooling fans. As @mac72 suspected, hidden in the heatsinks - see below message from Kresten Dinesen.
I am astonished at how well they are concealed and how quiet they must be as I was completely unaware of their presence and didn't notice any fan noise whatsoever during the whole time I owned my 150.
Message from Kresten:
The AMP-150 only have active cooling which consist of two cooling fans inside the heatsinks a long with an advanced cooling control system. As one in the thread you send me quotes:
The system measures music level and temperature level and processes data individually for each channel. The cooling system activates when music is playing and will adjust the cooling level accordingly to the temperature level. When music stops the cooling system will lower into minimum cooling mode and then go into standby when the amplifier has been cooled to the idle temperature.
It works quite well and is of course completely separate from any signal circuitry. Most customers will never notice this at all.
I know of the controversy about active cooling in audio products. It is simply necessary in the AMP-150 that pack so much power in that s
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Post by jandl100 on Jan 3, 2024 15:53:29 GMT
Well, that's a relief.
I was having trouble sleeping at night worrying about the Gato fans.
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Post by pete on Jan 3, 2024 15:55:45 GMT
Phew! I can now rest easy!!🤣🤣
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 3, 2024 17:19:44 GMT
indeed . glad i found out though as i will avoid anything with fans unless its airconditioning !!
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Post by macca on Jan 3, 2024 18:37:26 GMT
They only kick in if they are needed, that would mean caning the amp for a fair while to get it hot enough (I mean it's a class AB and it has passive heatsinks too).
So you may never have activated the fans. Even if you did you'd have the music so loud by then it seems unlikely you'd hear them.
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Post by hifinutt on Jan 4, 2024 11:07:43 GMT
thanks macca , good to know
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), but more of a good port, some lip smacking cheddar, quality track days. Oh and a trick scope of two.
